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Dell

Princeton (3): TP (U Arizona, PL), MK (Houston, AP), LR (Houston, AP)*
Duke (2): AC (UW, CP/PE)*, ER (LSU, CP)*
Harvard (2): SK (Yale, AP), NGR (Princeton, IR)***
MIT (2): RT (Naval War College, IR)*, ES (Naval War College, IR)
UC Berkeley (2) LJ (HBS BGIE)*,: TK (CGU, CP)*
UC L@ (2): CS (Boston U, AP)***, TR (CGU, AP)**
WUSTL (1): ER (Notre Dame, AP)*, JJ (Houston, CP)
Brown(1): JL (Amherst, REP)**
American U (1): JD (UNC Charlotte, PA)***
Columbia (1): RC (Cornell, IR)
Cornell (1): GC (Drake, AP)?
Michigan (1): AM (Carleton, CP/IR)
Purdue (1): GC (Salisbury, AP)**
Stony Brook (1): BM (Kennesaw St, AP)
Toronto (1): AL (Naval Academy, CP)*
UC D@vis (1): AK (UWEC, PT/PL)
USC (1): JB (Colorado College, IR)*
* F
** M (URM)
*** F (URM)

Put second Princeton (Houston) and fixed JJ

1 month ago # QUOTE 17 YEA 4 NAY !
Cymbeline

why do we list placements and the alma mater for new hires?
if we do it to congratulate ppl who got jobs then we should applaud people who needed more qualifications than others. i fixed the list and added demo variables to recognize people who achieved success without the massive gender and race boost. why not recognize everyone? for the same reason that we do not list people who only made it to the final round.

if we list placements to get a finger on how successful programs are at placing applicants then we also need race and gender. a program that consistently places asian men at ucb graduates better researchers on average than one that places black women at bu.
if we list placements to welcome new scholars to the discipline of political science then we should also list postdocs and graduate students. they also show up at major conferences and are 'part of the discipline' as much as anybody else setting aside prestige. if we are making a list of who is most engaged with the discipline and these ppl tend to be professors then we still need demo vars since white and azn men must do more to get jobs. whatever the point of this list race and gender are relevant

We might as well move away from a list and used a spread sheet to note people's statistics (e.g. ABD/Postdoc, number of publications, etc). As it is, the list is uninformative. It's possible an URM ABD got a job solely because they're ABD, but it's also possible they just have a strong record.

1 month ago # QUOTE 4 YEA 11 NAY !
Phyllis

Can we stop with the silly asterisks? It serves literally zero purpose.

1 month ago # QUOTE 5 YEA 19 NAY !
Jackalyn

Princeton (3): TP (U Arizona, PL), MK (Houston, AP), LR (Houston, AP)*
Duke (2): AC (UW, CP/PE)*, ER (LSU, CP)*
Harvard (2): SK (Yale, AP), NGR (Princeton, IR)***
MIT (2): RT (Naval War College, IR)*, ES (Naval War College, IR)
UC Berkeley (2) LJ (HBS BGIE)*,: TK (CGU, CP)*
UC L@ (2): CS (Boston U, AP)***, TR (CGU, AP)**
WUSTL (1): ER (Notre Dame, AP)*, JJ (Houston, CP)
Brown(1): JL (Amherst, REP)**
American U (1): JD (UNC Charlotte, PA)***
Columbia (1): RC (Cornell, IR)
Cornell (1): GC (Drake, AP)?
Michigan (1): AM (Carleton, CP/IR)
Purdue (1): GC (Salisbury, AP)**
Stony Brook (1): BM (Kennesaw St, AP)
Toronto (1): AL (Naval Academy, CP)*
UC D@vis (1): AK (UWEC, PT/PL)
USC (1): JB (Colorado College, IR)*
* F
** M (URM)
*** F (URM)
Put second Princeton (Houston) and fixed JJ

isn't TR a white boy?

1 month ago # QUOTE 7 YEA 2 NAY !
Silver

How is TR URM?

1 month ago # QUOTE 10 YEA 4 NAY !
Oz

Princeton (3): TP (U Arizona, PL), MK (Houston, AP), LR (Houston, AP)*
Duke (2): AC (UW, CP/PE)*, ER (LSU, CP)*
Harvard (2): SK (Yale, AP), NGR (Princeton, IR)***
MIT (2): RT (Naval War College, IR)*, ES (Naval War College, IR)
UC Berkeley (2) LJ (HBS BGIE)*,: TK (CGU, CP)*
UC L@ (2): CS (Boston U, AP)***, TR (CGU, AP)**
WUSTL (1): ER (Notre Dame, AP)*, JJ (Houston, CP)
Brown(1): JL (Amherst, REP)**
American U (1): JD (UNC Charlotte, PA)***
Columbia (1): RC (Cornell, IR)
Cornell (1): GC (Drake, AP)?
Michigan (1): AM (Carleton, CP/IR)
Purdue (1): GC (Salisbury, AP)**
Stony Brook (1): BM (Kennesaw St, AP)
Toronto (1): AL (Naval Academy, CP)*
U Chicago (1): GB (LSU, CP)***
UC D@vis (1): AK (UWEC, PT/PL)
USC (1): JB (Colorado College, IR)*
* F
** M (URM)
*** F (URM)

/ added U Chicago

1 month ago # QUOTE 10 YEA 3 NAY !
Meaghan

why do we list placements and the alma mater for new hires?
if we do it to congratulate ppl who got jobs then we should applaud people who needed more qualifications than others. i fixed the list and added demo variables to recognize people who achieved success without the massive gender and race boost. why not recognize everyone? for the same reason that we do not list people who only made it to the final round.
if we list placements to get a finger on how successful programs are at placing applicants then we also need race and gender. a program that consistently places asian men at ucb graduates better researchers on average than one that places black women at bu.
if we list placements to welcome new scholars to the discipline of political science then we should also list postdocs and graduate students. they also show up at major conferences and are 'part of the discipline' as much as anybody else setting aside prestige. if we are making a list of who is most engaged with the discipline and these ppl tend to be professors then we still need demo vars since white and azn men must do more to get jobs. whatever the point of this list race and gender are relevant
We might as well move away from a list and used a spread sheet to note people's statistics (e.g. ABD/Postdoc, number of publications, etc). As it is, the list is uninformative. It's possible an URM ABD got a job solely because they're ABD, but it's also possible they just have a strong record.

They do not get handed jobs but they do not have strong records either. Last Black person with a record that stands against a regular market superstar?

1 month ago # QUOTE 11 YEA 2 NAY !
Jackalyn

Princeton (3): TP (U Arizona, PL), MK (Houston, AP), LR (Houston, AP)*
Duke (2): AC (UW, CP/PE)*, ER (LSU, CP)*
Harvard (2): SK (Yale, AP), NGR (Princeton, IR)***
MIT (2): RT (Naval War College, IR)*, ES (Naval War College, IR)
UC Berkeley (2) LJ (HBS BGIE)*,: TK (CGU, CP)*
UC L@ (2): CS (Boston U, AP)***, TR (CGU, AP)
WUSTL (2): ER (Notre Dame, AP)*, JJ (Houston, CP)
Brown(1): JL (Amherst, REP)**
American U (1): JD (UNC Charlotte, PA)***
Columbia (1): RC (Cornell, IR)
Cornell (1): GC (Drake, AP)?
Michigan (1): AM (Carleton, CP/IR)
Purdue (1): GC (Salisbury, AP)**
Stony Brook (1): BM (Kennesaw St, AP)
Toronto (1): AL (Naval Academy, CP)*
U Chicago (1): GB (LSU, CP)***
UC D@vis (1): AK (UWEC, PT/PL)
USC (1): JB (Colorado College, IR)*
* F
** M (URM)
*** F (URM)

/ fixed urm TR status and WUSTL numbering

1 month ago # QUOTE 11 YEA 3 NAY !
Joyce

Can we stop with the silly asterisks? It serves literally zero purpose.

why do we list placements and the alma mater for new hires?
if we do it to congratulate ppl who got jobs then we should applaud people who needed more qualifications than others. i fixed the list and added demo variables to recognize people who achieved success without the massive gender and race boost. why not recognize everyone? for the same reason that we do not list people who only made it to the final round.
if we list placements to get a finger on how successful programs are at placing applicants then we also need race and gender. a program that consistently places asian men at ucb graduates better researchers on average than one that places black women at bu.
if we list placements to welcome new scholars to the discipline of political science then we should also list postdocs and graduate students. they also show up at major conferences and are 'part of the discipline' as much as anybody else setting aside prestige. if we are making a list of who is most engaged with the discipline and these ppl tend to be professors then we still need demo vars since white and azn men must do more to get jobs. whatever the point of this list race and gender are relevant

1 month ago # QUOTE 11 YEA 3 NAY !
Wat

Princeton (3): TP (U Arizona, PL), MK (Houston, AP), LR (Houston, AP)*
Duke (2): AC (UW, CP/PE)*, ER (LSU, CP)*
Harvard (2): SK (Yale, AP), NGR (Princeton, IR)***
MIT (2): RT (Naval War College, IR)*, ES (Naval War College, IR)
UC Berkeley (2) LJ (HBS BGIE)*,: TK (CGU, CP)*
UC L@ (2): CS (Boston U, AP)***, TR (CGU, AP)
WUSTL (2): ER (Notre Dame, AP)*, JJ (Houston, CP)
Brown(1): JL (Amherst, REP)**
American U (1): JD (UNC Charlotte, PA)***
Columbia (1): RC (Cornell, IR)
Cornell (1): GC (Drake, AP)?
Michigan (1): AM (Carleton, CP/IR)
Purdue (1): GC (Salisbury, AP)**
Stony Brook (1): BM (Kennesaw St, AP)
Toronto (1): AL (Naval Academy, CP)*
U Chicago (1): GB (LSU, CP)***
UC D@vis (1): AK (UWEC, PT/PL)
USC (1): JB (Colorado College, IR)*
* F
** M (URM)
*** F (URM)
/ fixed urm TR status and WUSTL numbering

2 TRs at UCLA

1 month ago # QUOTE 1 YEA 0 NAY !
Wat

Princeton (3): TP (U Arizona, PL), MK (Houston, AP), LR (Houston, AP)*
Duke (2): AC (UW, CP/PE)*, ER (LSU, CP)*
Harvard (2): SK (Yale, AP), NGR (Princeton, IR)***
MIT (2): RT (Naval War College, IR)*, ES (Naval War College, IR)
UC Berkeley (2) LJ (HBS BGIE)*,: TK (CGU, CP)*
UC L@ (2): CS (Boston U, AP)***, TR (CGU, AP)
WUSTL (2): ER (Notre Dame, AP)*, JJ (Houston, CP)
Brown(1): JL (Amherst, REP)**
American U (1): JD (UNC Charlotte, PA)***
Columbia (1): RC (Cornell, IR)
Cornell (1): GC (Drake, AP)?
Michigan (1): AM (Carleton, CP/IR)
Purdue (1): GC (Salisbury, AP)**
Stony Brook (1): BM (Kennesaw St, AP)
Toronto (1): AL (Naval Academy, CP)*
U Chicago (1): GB (LSU, CP)***
UC D@vis (1): AK (UWEC, PT/PL)
USC (1): JB (Colorado College, IR)*
* F
** M (URM)
*** F (URM)
/ fixed urm TR status and WUSTL numbering

2 TRs at UCLA

1 month ago # QUOTE 0 YEA 0 NAY !
Randa

There's some really weird pattern here, all the anti-asterisk posts start off with a high yea/nay ratio and then get a huge flood of nays (eg this one below started like 20/1 and now is 24/36). Is there some racist bot army that gets periodically assigned to attack the thread, or are the posts getting linked from 12chan or something?

Duke (2): AC (UW, CP/PE), ER (LSU, CP)
Harvard (2): SK (Yale, AP), NGR (Princeton, IR)
MIT (2): RT (Naval War College, IR), ES (Naval War College, IR)
Princeton (2): TP (U Arizona, PL), MK (Houston, AP)
Toronto (2): AL (Naval Academy, CP), KY(ZhejiangU, IR)
UC Berkeley (2) LJ (HBS BGIE),: TK (CGU, CP)
UC L@ (2): CS (Boston U, AP), TR (CGU, AP)
WUSTL (1): ER (Notre Dame, AP), JJ (Houston, CP)?
Brown(1): JL (Amherst, REP)
American U (1): JD (UNC Charlotte, PA)
Columbia (1): RC (Cornell, IR)
Cornell (1): GC (Drake, AP)
Michigan (1): AM (Carleton, CP/IR)
Purdue (1): GC (Salisbury, AP)
Stony Brook (1): BM (Kennesaw St, AP)
UC D@vis (1): AK (UWEC, PT/PL)
USC (1): JB (Colorado College, IR)
\fixed formatting and removed unnecessary information. placement threads are the only thing of any value on this website, so let's please not turn it into yet another thread for posting grievances about affirmative action and trashing junior scholars based on their race, gender, age (a new one for this year!), etc. the job market is tough, it was never fair and you're naive for thinking it would be, and there are better channels for your disillusionment than being an anonymous internet troll.

1 month ago # QUOTE 4 YEA 11 NAY !
Jackalyn

Princeton (3): TP (U Arizona, PL), MK (Houston, AP), LR (Houston, AP)*
Duke (2): AC (UW, CP/PE)*, ER (LSU, CP)*
Harvard (2): SK (Yale, AP), NGR (Princeton, IR)***
MIT (2): RT (Naval War College, IR)*, ES (Naval War College, IR)
UC Berkeley (2) LJ (HBS BGIE)*,: TK (CGU, CP)*
UC L@ (2): CS (Boston U, AP)***, TR (CGU, AP)
WUSTL (2): ER (Notre Dame, AP)*, JJ (Houston, CP)
Brown(1): JL (Amherst, REP)**
American U (1): JD (UNC Charlotte, PA)***
Columbia (1): RC (Cornell, IR)
Cornell (1): GC (Drake, AP)?
Michigan (1): AM (Carleton, CP/IR)
Purdue (1): GC (Salisbury, AP)**
Stony Brook (1): BM (Kennesaw St, AP)
Toronto (1): AL (Naval Academy, CP)*
U Chicago (1): GB (LSU, CP)***
UC D@vis (1): AK (UWEC, PT/PL)
USC (1): JB (Colorado College, IR)*
* F
** M (URM)
*** F (URM)
/ fixed urm TR status and WUSTL numbering

2 TRs at UCLA

I did not know that. Only know of the twitter announcement. did they both place at CGU? If not, it's the whïte one?

1 month ago # QUOTE 5 YEA 0 NAY !
Mack

Princeton (3): TP (U Arizona, PL), MK (Houston, AP), LR (Houston, AP)*
Duke (2): AC (UW, CP/PE)*, ER (LSU, CP)*
Harvard (2): SK (Yale, AP), NGR (Princeton, IR)***
MIT (2): RT (Naval War College, IR)*, ES (Naval War College, IR)
UC Berkeley (2) LJ (HBS BGIE)*,: TK (CGU, CP)*
UC L@ (2): CS (Boston U, AP)***, TR (CGU, AP)
WUSTL (2): ER (Notre Dame, AP)*, JJ (Houston, CP)
Brown(1): JL (Amherst, REP)**
American U (1): JD (UNC Charlotte, PA)***
Columbia (1): RC (Cornell, IR)
Cornell (1): GC (Drake, AP)?
Michigan (1): AM (Carleton, CP/IR)
Purdue (1): GC (Salisbury, AP)**
Stony Brook (1): BM (Kennesaw St, AP)
Toronto (1): AL (Naval Academy, CP)*
U Chicago (1): GB (LSU, CP)***
UC D@vis (1): AK (UWEC, PT/PL)
USC (1): JB (Colorado College, IR)*
* F
** M (URM)
*** F (URM)
/ fixed urm TR status and WUSTL numbering
2 TRs at UCLA

I did not know that. Only know of the twitter announcement. did they both place at CGU? If not, it's the whïte one?

The white is REP and the Black one is new

1 month ago # QUOTE 3 YEA 1 NAY !
Jackalyn

Princeton (3): TP (U Arizona, PL), MK (Houston, AP), LR (Houston, AP)*
Duke (2): AC (UW, CP/PE)*, ER (LSU, CP)*
Harvard (2): SK (Yale, AP), NGR (Princeton, IR)***
MIT (2): RT (Naval War College, IR)*, ES (Naval War College, IR)
UC Berkeley (2) LJ (HBS BGIE)*,: TK (CGU, CP)*
UC L@ (2): CS (Boston U, AP)***, TR (CGU, AP)
WUSTL (2): ER (Notre Dame, AP)*, JJ (Houston, CP)
Brown(1): JL (Amherst, REP)**
American U (1): JD (UNC Charlotte, PA)***
Columbia (1): RC (Cornell, IR)
Cornell (1): GC (Drake, AP)?
Michigan (1): AM (Carleton, CP/IR)
Purdue (1): GC (Salisbury, AP)**
Stony Brook (1): BM (Kennesaw St, AP)
Toronto (1): AL (Naval Academy, CP)*
U Chicago (1): GB (LSU, CP)***
UC D@vis (1): AK (UWEC, PT/PL)
USC (1): JB (Colorado College, IR)*
* F
** M (URM)
*** F (URM)
/ fixed urm TR status and WUSTL numbering
2 TRs at UCLA
I did not know that. Only know of the twitter announcement. did they both place at CGU? If not, it's the whïte one?

The white is REP and the Black one is new

you are unclear. The list is correct. The white TR has a job at CGU.

1 month ago # QUOTE 6 YEA 0 NAY !
Leandre

this website: why are libruls obsessed with identity politics??
also this website: you must report all demographic information about job market placements
Really interesting that the PSR regulars are adding notations of race and gender, not publications or advisor.

Publications count for way way WAY less than race or gender. Pedigree can count for more.

This is a *classic* LRM excuse for striking out. “It’s not my inability to generate attention-worthy scholarship or network effectively, it’s affirmative action.” Shoulda gotten into a better program with a better advisor, dude. Then you’d have the access to data, methods training, mentoring to put it all together, and pedigree to get past the first cut by hiring comms. But you didn’t. So it’s black women’s fault or something.

1 month ago # QUOTE 3 YEA 13 NAY !
Esta

This is a *classic* _____ excuse for striking out. “It’s not my inability to generate attention-worthy scholarship or network effectively, it’s ______.” Shoulda gotten into a better program with a better advisor, dude. Then you’d have the access to data, methods training, mentoring to put it all together, and pedigree to get past the first cut by hiring comms. But you didn’t. So it’s ______ fault or something.

1 month ago # QUOTE 10 YEA 1 NAY !
Mordecai

This is a *classic* BIPOC excuse for being called out. “It’s not my inability to generate attention-worthy scholarship or network effectively, it’s my race.” Shoulda gotten into a better program with a better advisor, dude. Then you’d have the access to data, methods training, mentoring to put it all together, and pedigree to leave no doubt you are as qualified. But you didn’t. So it’s racism's fault or something.

1 month ago # QUOTE 4 YEA 0 NAY !
Marlowe

Hi there! Search Committee member of one of the jobs listed here. I’m not going to out myself by saying which job.

The person who is listed as accepted our offer was not even interviewed. PSR has become a joke.

1 month ago # QUOTE 2 YEA 8 NAY !
Lane

Where are the NYU placements?

I don't know, but I know that next year they will place at least one student in a good job; they've got a star coming up.

Are you talking about CS?

1 month ago # QUOTE 0 YEA 0 NAY !

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