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Diamond

you folks keeps trying to find patterns in a process that is inherently random/subjective

just because it's noisy doesn't mean it's a completely random process. only a naif could look at the above list and miss that depts are intentionally hiring diversity candidates with thin records over everyone else. you can say that's good or bad, but you can't say it ain't happening.

Of course it’s happening! The evidence is all around us. Race and gender are now the leading factors in hiring. It’s blatantly illegal. Only a matter of time until a discriminated candidate takes action.

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Rosine

^Who will take action? That would guarantee that you'll never land a TT job in this market.

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Osmund

Of course it’s happening! The evidence is all around us. Race and gender are now the leading factors in hiring. It’s blatantly illegal. Only a matter of time until a discriminated candidate takes action.

And who is discriminating against white men? The white men who still predominantly make up political science departments and hiring committees?

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Rosine

Temple is a great school, but MG’s CV is really good. He should be landing much, much higher.

I don't know MG or his record, but I'm not so sure about this point. My sense is that super-qualified people are now routinely landing at R2 schools. It's the new normal in a market where the number of great applicants far outpaces the number of top-tier jobs. (And yes, some white dudes are getting passed over, that's happening too).

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Rosine

And who is discriminating against white men? The white men who still predominantly make up political science departments and hiring committees?

Don't be so obtuse. Of course white men can discriminate against white dudes for the sake of diversifying overly-white departments. Happening all over these days.

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Marcelle

And who is discriminating against white men? The white men who still predominantly make up political science departments and hiring committees?

Don't be so obtuse. Of course white men can discriminate against white dudes for the sake of diversifying overly-white departments. Happening all over these days.

This is in-your-face obvious. There is intense pressure coming down from Deans and admins in the university, reinforced by the political demands by students and faculty across the woke archipelago, magnified by the economic bottom line of needing to maintain enrollment figures by recruiting POC students, which is where most of the growth opportunity in enrollment is happening.

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Susie

ITT: white whine. The official beverage of PSR.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmm! Delicious!!

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Marcelle

ITT: white whine. The official beverage of PSR.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmm! Delicious!!

not white my dude, and also not celebrating as the university circles the toilet of mediocrity.

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Diamond

If you don’t think there’s race and gender discrimination going on in the current job market, you’re either not actually on any hiring committees, or you’re in support of that discrimination. But your support doesn’t make it any less illegal.

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Darryl

Penn(6): EB (Western, CP), GD (Brown, CP), SL (Pitt, IR), CB (Princeton, CP/IR), MG (Fairfield, CP/REP), SB (American, CP)
Chicago (5): AC (TAMU, IR), JB (BC, IR), JD (UCI, AP), ML (Loyola Marymount, AP), SJ (ANU, CP/IR)
NYU (5): MM (TAMU, IR), SY (Rochester, AP), SZ (UC Berkeley, AP/CP), TP (USC, CP), YW (UNC, Methods)
Princeton (5): SC (Lafayette, AP), GN (NYU, CP), SS (Swarthmore, AP), NL (Harvard, Methods), DG (Va. Tech, AP)
UCSD (4): AG (Vanderbilt, IR), CC (Utah, IR), LM (Bristol, AP), ND (Trinity, AP)
Yale (3): GP (Tulane, CP), FH (Tufts, IR), MR (Duke, CP)
Harvard (3): AD (Dartmouth, Methods), AL (Tulane, CP), JB (Syracuse, CP)
Duke (3): JC (Temple, AP), MH (Houston, PT), SB (South Carolina, PT)
Cornell (2): AC (Colby, PT), DD (Denver, IR)
Notre Dame (2): LS (UCI, IR), KB (Bucknell, PT)
UCLA (2): GL (Ohio State, REP), JF (ASU, REP)
OSU (2): JH (Ripon, IR), JE (UT Dallas, IR)
UVA: (1) DH (Bowdoin, REP)
Arizona (1): ILW (IL-Springfield)
Arizona State (1): DS (PCU)
GW (1): JJ (UGA, REP)
Indiana (1): IA (UMCB, GS)
Iowa (1): LA (Florida, IR)
Michigan (1): JD (FSU, IR)
Michigan State (1): EP (TT, IR)
Minnesota (1): RH (TCU, AP)
Stanford (1): AZ (WUSTL, China)
UCB (1): JP (Amherst, PT)
UC-Davis (1): IH (Occidental, AP)
Chicago - Sociology (1): ST (Harvard, AP)
UGA (1): AH (Whitworth, AP)
UNC (1): RP (ND, AP)
UCR (1): MO (Bentley, AP)
UNT (1): DM (A&M-Texarkana, IR)
UW-Madison (1): SMR (Montana State, IR)
UW-Milwaukee (1): TL (St. Thomas, AP)
Vanderbilt (1): MO (Butler,REP)
WUSTL (1): BM (NYU, AP)

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Hector

MIT?

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Judah

I'm on a search committee right now and this is 100% accurate. Basically have been told "dont hire a white guy"

And who is discriminating against white men? The white men who still predominantly make up political science departments and hiring committees?
Don't be so obtuse. Of course white men can discriminate against white dudes for the sake of diversifying overly-white departments. Happening all over these days.

This is in-your-face obvious. There is intense pressure coming down from Deans and admins in the university, reinforced by the political demands by students and faculty across the woke archipelago, magnified by the economic bottom line of needing to maintain enrollment figures by recruiting POC students, which is where most of the growth opportunity in enrollment is happening.

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Quentin

Must be a mindf--k after decades of the hiring instruction being "ONLY hire the white guy"

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Judah

I wouldn't call temple a 3rd tier school by any means

The benefit of a market with too many excellent candidates is that even second and third tier schools like Temple can now recruit top-tier hires. Talent is becoming more evenly distributed across layers in the academic hierarchy, which is probably good for students though perhaps bad for job-seekers.

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Judah

UVA?

10 years ago, where does MG end up? somewhere better than temple...

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Marcelle

Must be a mindf--k after decades of the hiring instruction being "ONLY hire the white guy"

Says someone with an 5th grade understanding of how inequality works in the academia.

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Eomer

you really aren’t bright. No wonder why support discr1mination

Must be a mindf--k after decades of the hiring instruction being "ONLY hire the white guy"

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Neil

During a flyout I had this cycle, one of the faculty let slip that the Dean was pressuring the department to use the department’s new line to diversify the faculty. No joke. They said it directly to my face. Needless to say, I didn’t get the job.

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Adamina

I wouldn't call temple a 3rd tier school by any means
The benefit of a market with too many excellent candidates is that even second and third tier schools like Temple can now recruit top-tier hires. Talent is becoming more evenly distributed across layers in the academic hierarchy, which is probably good for students though perhaps bad for job-seekers.

Why not?

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Eomer

Here’s an idea, maybe they should get rid of old white dudes if they want to diversify. Why am I getting punished for your past “wrongdoing”? How’s the lack of diversity my fault?

During a flyout I had this cycle, one of the faculty let slip that the Dean was pressuring the department to use the department’s new line to diversify the faculty. No joke. They said it directly to my face. Needless to say, I didn’t get the job.

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