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APSA annual meeting locations
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You're really telling me that St. Louis, Cleveland, Kansas City etc. can't handle this s**tty conference? What about Texas? It has three of the largest cities in the country, it's right in the middle, and the food's better and cheaper than in Philly. WTF? f**k APSA.
*Of course* other places could handle the conference. But APSA tends to lean toward pedestrian-friendly cities with good public transit systems (its easier for attendees to get around). Not always, but usually.
Those cities you mention are generally NOT that. Plus, lets be honest: Kansas City, Houston, St. Louis, Cleveland generally suck as tourist destinations. Sure, they're big and bustling cities, but they just don't offer nearly as much attractive stuff to visitors (and they're ugly, too). What's more, many cities in late August/early September (e.g. Texas locales) are extremely hot and humid, making them even less attractive as convention venues.
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DC is good tourist locale but still hot and humid. Philly is hot and humid and sucks as a tourist destination.
You're really telling me that St. Louis, Cleveland, Kansas City etc. can't handle this s**tty conference? What about Texas? It has three of the largest cities in the country, it's right in the middle, and the food's better and cheaper than in Philly. WTF? f**k APSA.
*Of course* other places could handle the conference. But APSA tends to lean toward pedestrian-friendly cities with good public transit systems (its easier for attendees to get around). Not always, but usually.
Those cities you mention are generally NOT that. Plus, lets be honest: Kansas City, Houston, St. Louis, Cleveland generally suck as tourist destinations. Sure, they're big and bustling cities, but they just don't offer nearly as much attractive stuff to visitors (and they're ugly, too). What's more, many cities in late August/early September (e.g. Texas locales) are extremely hot and humid, making them even less attractive as convention venues. -
You're really telling me that St. Louis, Cleveland, Kansas City etc. can't handle this s**tty conference? What about Texas? It has three of the largest cities in the country, it's right in the middle, and the food's better and cheaper than in Philly. WTF? f**k APSA.
*Of course* other places could handle the conference. But APSA tends to lean toward pedestrian-friendly cities with good public transit systems (its easier for attendees to get around). Not always, but usually.
Those cities you mention are generally NOT that. Plus, lets be honest: Kansas City, Houston, St. Louis, Cleveland generally suck as tourist destinations. Sure, they're big and bustling cities, but they just don't offer nearly as much attractive stuff to visitors (and they're ugly, too). What's more, many cities in late August/early September (e.g. Texas locales) are extremely hot and humid, making them even less attractive as convention venues.Right, Cleveland sucks for tourism. But I'm not going for tourism. I'm going for a professional conference that I'm mostly paying for. Who gives a s**t if it's hot outside, the conference is inside. Gimme a break.
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Right, Cleveland sucks for tourism. But I'm not going for tourism. I'm going for a professional conference that I'm mostly paying for. Who gives a s**t if it's hot outside, the conference is inside. Gimme a break.
Well, maybe you hole up on the hotel for days on end but that's not the way I (and many others) do conferences, and I've been doing them for two decades now.
Like many people who attend poli sci meetings, I do other outside activities, whether its walking a few blocks from the hotel to restaurants/bars to going with my wife/family (who often join me at meetings) to nearby attractions.
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f**k APSA. They should waive the registration fee for everyone but tenured CHYMPS if they're going to insist on holding this conference at overpriced coastal-ish cities (and, no, Chicago doesn't count as a concession; it's just as expensive and in a worse location). Few of us on the market can afford to fly from one end of the country to the other, pay for exorbitant hotels and food, and then eat for the rest of the year.
You're really telling me that St. Louis, Cleveland, Kansas City etc. can't handle this s**tty conference? What about Texas? It has three of the largest cities in the country, it's right in the middle, and the food's better and cheaper than in Philly. WTF? f**k APSA.Chicago is in the middle of the country with two airports and tons of flights, so it makes for easier travel for the majority of members. Airfare to cities that aren't airport hubs or are major tourist destinations (Vegas and Orlando, for example) can be prohibitively expensive.
Houston and Dallas are easy to get to, but these are generally not pedestrian-friendly places, and Houston on Labor Day weekend is disgustingly hot and horrible. Frankly if we're going to go to a Gulf city that time of year, New Orleans is far preferable (at least for those of us who would like to spend at least part of the weekend outside of windowless conference rooms). Airfare can be tricky though.
As for food in Philly...um, have you been there in the last decade or so? It has an amazing food scene, and some of the city's best restaurants are an easy walk or subway trip from the convention center. That said, beware the US Airways terminal in PHL.
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Didn't APSA have kind of PC rules/stipulations that they only would schedule the conference in gay-marriage friendly states? And was there ever anything about being labor friendly/pro-union? I recall there were folks who were mad that 2012 was in Louisiana (anti-marriage at the time) and seem to recall that there were some who led a boycott effort. APSA, I thought, seemed inclined to avoid this controversy in the future and tried to steer toward gay marriage friendly locales.
I could see some similar PC test possible going forward: holding APSA only in states that don't ban "sanctuary cities" or are pro-climate change research, etc. In other words, a backdoor test of liberalism that would result in the conference continuing to be held in essentially the same limited number of lefty coastal cities (and for the record, I'm a lefty) and not in big cities like Phoenix or Dallas.
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Didn't APSA have kind of PC rules/stipulations that they only would schedule the conference in gay-marriage friendly states? And was there ever anything about being labor friendly/pro-union? I recall there were folks who were mad that 2012 was in Louisiana (anti-marriage at the time) and seem to recall that there were some who led a boycott effort. APSA, I thought, seemed inclined to avoid this controversy in the future and tried to steer toward gay marriage friendly locales.
I could see some similar PC test possible going forward: holding APSA only in states that don't ban "sanctuary cities" or are pro-climate change research, etc. In other words, a backdoor test of liberalism that would result in the conference continuing to be held in essentially the same limited number of lefty coastal cities (and for the record, I'm a lefty) and not in big cities like Phoenix or Dallas.It wasn't a "PC" thing. It was more a matter that rights of same sex marriages are not honored and it could be a problem if someone has an accident, etc. There are probably other problems that could arise with real consequences for those who attend.
It is basically like if APSA decided to do the conference in a middle eastern country that made women cover their faces or in an African country in which homosexuality is a crime with capital punishment. Some Southern States are not far from that and if they could, they would make their laws much more extreme.