Also one guy with a 9mm out of hundreds is not really an armed insurrection.
Cheney: GOP leader trying to block any real investigatin into 1/6 insurrection
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And what if they'd managed to find Pence and string him up from the rafters, as they loudly stated they wanted to do? Would that have not been insurrection either? You know, cuz they didn't use guns? What if they'd found the strongbox with the EC counts, and destroyed it? Also not insurrection, I'm guessing?
The GOP mental gymnastics over the seditious extremists in your party is just fascinating to watch. I mean, it's mostly disgusting and profoundly disturbing. But also, fascinating.
Did you ever hear of freedom of speech? Wasn't it Obama who said you need to bring a gun to a knife fight. Such rhetorical gymnastics is part and parcel of contemporary politics. Get a grip.
Let's do this one by one:
Pipe bombs -- weapon, or not weapon?None were found in the Capitol. Unlike the leftist bomb detonation in the Senate building in 1983.
Oh well that's alright then. Merely in other places around DC, right as an unruly mob was descending on the Capitol.
Whew! And here I thought the pipe bombs were serious.
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And what if they'd managed to find Pence and string him up from the rafters, as they loudly stated they wanted to do? Would that have not been insurrection either? You know, cuz they didn't use guns? What if they'd found the strongbox with the EC counts, and destroyed it? Also not insurrection, I'm guessing?
The GOP mental gymnastics over the seditious extremists in your party is just fascinating to watch. I mean, it's mostly disgusting and profoundly disturbing. But also, fascinating.Did you ever hear of freedom of speech? Wasn't it Obama who said you need to bring a gun to a knife fight. Such rhetorical gymnastics is part and parcel of contemporary politics. Get a grip.
They've heard of freedom of speech, but they also believe it does not apply to anyone except Democrats.
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And what if they'd managed to find Pence and string him up from the rafters, as they loudly stated they wanted to do? Would that have not been insurrection either? You know, cuz they didn't use guns? What if they'd found the strongbox with the EC counts, and destroyed it? Also not insurrection, I'm guessing?
The GOP mental gymnastics over the seditious extremists in your party is just fascinating to watch. I mean, it's mostly disgusting and profoundly disturbing. But also, fascinating.
Did you ever hear of freedom of speech? Wasn't it Obama who said you need to bring a gun to a knife fight. Such rhetorical gymnastics is part and parcel of contemporary politics. Get a grip.They've heard of freedom of speech, but they also believe it does not apply to anyone except Democrats.
What part of the First Amendment applies to injuring 140 police officers? Can you point me to that section?
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Also one guy with a 9mm out of hundreds is not really an armed insurrection.
So we agree that there were guns at the insurrection. Good so far.
But is a gun a weapon?Sure, I concede ONE gun was found. You must have a very weak opinion of the government to think one guy with a gun can overturn an election.
BTW, I didn't vote for T, I just find this insurrection argument a bit played out. This was just a bunch of goof balls who, as with all moments of mob mentality, got caught up it.
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Also one guy with a 9mm out of hundreds is not really an armed insurrection.
So we agree that there were guns at the insurrection. Good so far.
But is a gun a weapon?Sure, I concede ONE gun was found. You must have a very weak opinion of the government to think one guy with a gun can overturn an election.
BTW, I didn't vote for T, I just find this insurrection argument a bit played out. This was just a bunch of goof balls who, as with all moments of mob mentality, got caught up it.More than one gun was found. As of a month ago:
"Four defendants in the Capitol riots have now been charged with firearms offenses. They have been accused respectively of bringing five loaded guns and 11 molotov cocktails in a truck; carrying a loaded semiautomatic handgun and large-capacity magazine at the entrance of the Capitol Visitor Center; and threatening elected officials after arriving in Washington with a semiautomatic rifle, Glock handgun and more than 2,500 rounds of ammunition."
Also, how many in the crowd were screened for guns?
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Let's do this one by one:
Pipe bombs -- weapon, or not weapon?None were found in the Capitol. Unlike the leftist bomb detonation in the Senate building in 1983.
Oh well that's alright then. Merely in other places around DC, right as an unruly mob was descending on the Capitol.
Whew! And here I thought the pipe bombs were serious.The two pipe bombs were placed near the Republican and Democrat headquarters respectively, the night of January 5th. So no, they were not placed "right as an unruly mob was descending on the Capitol." And no suspect as yet has been arrested or even identified.
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Let's do this one by one:
Pipe bombs -- weapon, or not weapon?
None were found in the Capitol. Unlike the leftist bomb detonation in the Senate building in 1983.
Oh well that's alright then. Merely in other places around DC, right as an unruly mob was descending on the Capitol.
Whew! And here I thought the pipe bombs were serious.The two pipe bombs were placed near the Republican and Democrat headquarters respectively, the night of January 5th. So no, they were not placed "right as an unruly mob was descending on the Capitol." And no suspect as yet has been arrested or even identified.
Does the fact that "no subject has yet been arrested or identified" mean that the bombs don't count?
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Let's do this one by one:
Pipe bombs -- weapon, or not weapon?
None were found in the Capitol. Unlike the leftist bomb detonation in the Senate building in 1983.
Oh well that's alright then. Merely in other places around DC, right as an unruly mob was descending on the Capitol.
Whew! And here I thought the pipe bombs were serious.
The two pipe bombs were placed near the Republican and Democrat headquarters respectively, the night of January 5th. So no, they were not placed "right as an unruly mob was descending on the Capitol." And no suspect as yet has been arrested or even identified.Does the fact that "no subject has yet been arrested or identified" mean that the bombs don't count?
It means you can't attribute them to the protesters, despite your repeated attempts to do so.
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Let's do this one by one:
Pipe bombs -- weapon, or not weapon?
None were found in the Capitol. Unlike the leftist bomb detonation in the Senate building in 1983.
Oh well that's alright then. Merely in other places around DC, right as an unruly mob was descending on the Capitol.
Whew! And here I thought the pipe bombs were serious.
The two pipe bombs were placed near the Republican and Democrat headquarters respectively, the night of January 5th. So no, they were not placed "right as an unruly mob was descending on the Capitol." And no suspect as yet has been arrested or even identified.
Does the fact that "no subject has yet been arrested or identified" mean that the bombs don't count?It means you can't attribute them to the protesters, despite your repeated attempts to do so.
I see. It was a pure coincidence, you're claiming?
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BTW, I didn't vote for T, I just find this insurrection argument a bit played out. This was just a bunch of goof balls who, as with all moments of mob mentality, got caught up it.
They’ve already charged seven different conspiracies to obstruct, genius.
One of the trai/tors pleaded to such a conspiracy just today:
Do you agree you intended to affect the government by stopping or delaying the congressional proceeding and in fact did so?” Mehta said, reading from a five-page statement. “You accomplished this by intimidating and coercing government personnel who were participating in or supporting the congressional proceeding?”
“Yes, your honor,” said Berry, who was released pending a court date in 60 days.In plea papers, Berry admitted driving to Washington from Florida with other co-conspirators, meeting them the morning of Jan. 6 at a rally for President Donald Trump at the White House Ellipse and marching to the Capitol. They later walked single-file up the Capitol steps in camouflage, body armor and tactical gear and forced entry through the East Rotunda doors about 2:40 p.m., Berry admitted.
At least two other Oath Keepers associates — Graydon P. Young, 55, of Florida, who also admitted being part of the “stack,” and Mark Grods, 54, of Mobile, Ala., who said he entered minutes later — have also pleaded guilty and agreed to testify against others, describing encrypted communications and efforts to bring and store firearms at a hotel in nearby Arlington, Va.
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Let's do this one by one:
Pipe bombs -- weapon, or not weapon?
None were found in the Capitol. Unlike the leftist bomb detonation in the Senate building in 1983.
Oh well that's alright then. Merely in other places around DC, right as an unruly mob was descending on the Capitol.
Whew! And here I thought the pipe bombs were serious.
The two pipe bombs were placed near the Republican and Democrat headquarters respectively, the night of January 5th. So no, they were not placed "right as an unruly mob was descending on the Capitol." And no suspect as yet has been arrested or even identified.
Does the fact that "no subject has yet been arrested or identified" mean that the bombs don't count?
It means you can't attribute them to the protesters, despite your repeated attempts to do so.I see. It was a pure coincidence, you're claiming?
It means they haven't even got a suspect, seven months later.
The fact that both the Republican and Democrat headquarters were targeted also suggests a different motive.
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I would also be interested in hearing from the insurrection apologist on the subject of axes, knives, baseball bats, flagpoles, truncheons, and chemical incapacitation sprays. Weapons or no?
I mean, *I* think they're weapons.
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The moral and logical gymnastics on display here are really impressive in their own way. Who knew MAGA was so… limber?
Not nearly as impressive as characterizing violent riots featuring assault and arson as 'peaceful' and enforcing ridiculously different standards in law enforcement:
https://mediadc.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/4ac34af/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1611x846+0+26/resize/1200x630!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmediadc.brightspotcdn.com%2Ffa%2F48%2F16a0dcb94e459392e8d86c04780a%2F1.png
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The moral and logical gymnastics on display here are really impressive in their own way. Who knew MAGA was so… limber?
Not nearly as impressive as characterizing violent riots featuring assault and arson as 'peaceful' and enforcing ridiculously different standards in law enforcement:
https://mediadc.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/4ac34af/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1611x846+0+26/resize/1200x630!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmediadc.brightspotcdn.com%2Ffa%2F48%2F16a0dcb94e459392e8d86c04780a%2F1.pngWhy are you trying to change the topic?. Answer the question: axes, knives, baseball bats, flagpoles, truncheons, and chemical incapacitation sprays. Weapons or no?