China lied about this. It's not more complicated than that.

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Russ

Man, it's breathtaking sometimes how gvllible and lacking in agency the modern right is. They will believe absolutely anything. They're that well-trained.

Trump literally went around for weeks saying coronavirus was nothing, it would just go away. Documented fact he refused foreign tests and sent out faulty tests and testing got delayed for six weeks. But if the right's masters declare it so, then suddenly trump was very serious about it the whole time and the tests were super-fast. We've always been at war with eastvirus!

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Kiefer

Claim that Dems criticized him for the travel bans is pure fantasy that you picked up from right-wing media. And I hate to break it to you, but the travel ban failed, if you haven't noticed. They don't prevent introduction. You need a plan to prevent community spread. Trump failed. He lied and failed. Nothing will ever absolve him of that, whoever else you want to blame to escape your cognitive dissonance.

The travel ban is not meant to prevent introduction - and if you were honest you would recognize that nothing was going to prevent introduction, because infected Chinese had already been all over the world by that point.

It's meant to reduce the number of infectious carriers entering the country, and slow the rate of infection in the overall population. The travel bans accomplished this.

Experts at the CDC attested that the travel bans bought the US significant time to respond.

Some countries that refused to adopt them initially are in a world of hurt. Most have adopted them since.

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Kiefer

Man, it's breathtaking sometimes how gvllible and lacking in agency the modern right is. They will believe absolutely anything. They're that well-trained.
Trump literally went around for weeks saying coronavirus was nothing, it would just go away. Documented fact he refused foreign tests and sent out faulty tests and testing got delayed for six weeks. But if the right's masters declare it so, then suddenly trump was very serious about it the whole time and the tests were super-fast. We've always been at war with eastvirus!

That whole post is one lie after another.

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Greta

Facts: the nature of the outbreaks between S. Korea and the US are not comparable.

The S. Korean outbreak was attributed largely to a religious order that the S. Korean government isolated. In addition, they were able to isolate the infection in one of their major cities.

The U.S. outbreak was markedly different, springing up in Washington state and California almost simultaneously, and we now know it was already circulating through the country, so a widespread outbreak had already begun in the U.S. long before anybody recognized it.

Had China and the WHO been more forthcoming, it's possible the US *may* have been able to isolate the infection, but since the U.S. infection wasn't confined to one large group and saw clusters started from China, Egypt, and Europe it is ludicrous to think that the outbreak is Trump's fault, and I didn't even vote for the guy.

China lied and they should be held accountable for that. If we had known what they knew in mid-December, maybe we're able to catch the cases in Egypt and Europe, but it's doubtful.

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Cosmo

The progressive brain in broken.

Saying that there virus originated in China, covered up by China, then blamed on the American military is simply "racist" even though they are all true.

Being woke reduces your IQ by 50 points, on average

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Russ

The progressive brain in broken.
Saying that there virus originated in China, covered up by China, then blamed on the American military is simply "racist" even though they are all true.
Being woke reduces your IQ by 50 points, on average

You're desperately harping on China to excuse Trump's incredible failures. I get it -- right-wing media told you to start saying this and you can't think for yourself anymore. But it's still pathetic just on the merits. If we could "vote out" China, I'd happily do it. But we can't. All we can do is vote out our own lying, incompetent failure.

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Russ

Man, it's breathtaking sometimes how gvllible and lacking in agency the modern right is. They will believe absolutely anything. They're that well-trained.
Trump literally went around for weeks saying coronavirus was nothing, it would just go away. Documented fact he refused foreign tests and sent out faulty tests and testing got delayed for six weeks. But if the right's masters declare it so, then suddenly trump was very serious about it the whole time and the tests were super-fast. We've always been at war with eastvirus!

That whole post is one lie after another.

And yet you can't name one single thing that's not true. Too bad. So sad.

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Russ

Facts: the nature of the outbreaks between S. Korea and the US are not comparable.
The S. Korean outbreak was attributed largely to a religious order that the S. Korean government isolated. In addition, they were able to isolate the infection in one of their major cities.
The U.S. outbreak was markedly different, springing up in Washington state and California almost simultaneously, and we now know it was already circulating through the country, so a widespread outbreak had already begun in the U.S. long before anybody recognized it.
Had China and the WHO been more forthcoming, it's possible the US *may* have been able to isolate the infection, but since the U.S. infection wasn't confined to one large group and saw clusters started from China, Egypt, and Europe it is ludicrous to think that the outbreak is Trump's fault, and I didn't even vote for the guy.
China lied and they should be held accountable for that. If we had known what they knew in mid-December, maybe we're able to catch the cases in Egypt and Europe, but it's doubtful.

This is just pure nonsense. The virus spread widely in South Korea and they still contained it. There were 2,300 cases outside of Daegu. The US should be capable of containing two sites. And fun fact: the first case in SK was the same time as that in the US. But six weeks of neglect and denial let it spread everywhere and now containment is hopeless.

Again, China had fully admitted the extent of the virus and gave the needed information well before this. None of this even slightly excuses Trump's incompetence, denial, and lying. Earlier wrongs don't excuse later ones.

No amount of distraction and denial will make up for this, righties. Trump failed. And now the country suffers.

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Kynaston

This Trumpvirus is going to have untold consequences.

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Jancis

Because it's ridiculous that 50% of the country is literally trying to use COVID-19 as a weapon against the president. Everything he says is wrong, everything he does is wrong. How about accept that the only party that is responsible is the CCP and their regime. Things were humming along well in this country before a bat decided to infect a pig in their dirty wet markets. Yet the media completely ignores that is the truth.
Why is this important right now

We have pigs in our markets. It’s not beyond the realm of possibility that someone from the US flew to Wuhan and started an epidemic there. Unlikely yes. But an empirical question best left to scientist. We should stick to the official name COVID-19 and not make this an unnecessary political war as trump has done. Focus on stemming the virus

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