USA 2020
Has a rich country ever had a Civil War
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What is rich? Interwar Spain was not that developed, but IDK. Yugoslavia was probably at a higher economic level than interwar Spain, albeit with big regional variation. US standard of living was surely among the highest in the world in 1860.
Above $10k per capita
You must be from a country with a GDP per capita at 11k and currently looking down on a country with another poor country embroiled in a civil war.
GDP per capita of 10,000 is sheeet poor. 20,000 is still pretty poor
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Most rich (semi-rich) countries have the capacity to suppress insurrections. I would guess there are as many groups in Russia, Belarus, China, the _stans, etc., who want to replace the government, as there are in any other country. But the capacity and brutality of the central government is too much to contend with.
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The only one of the states with a per capita GDP over 10 K was Libya…
Going to need to see some inflation adjustment if you're using dollars. No way France and Britain don't count as rich for their civil wars, and Spain had a civil war while being the richest country in the world.
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What is rich? Interwar Spain was not that developed, but IDK. Yugoslavia was probably at a higher economic level than interwar Spain, albeit with big regional variation. US standard of living was surely among the highest in the world in 1860.
Above $10k per capita
You must be from a country with a GDP per capita at 11k and currently looking down on a country with another poor country embroiled in a civil war.
GDP per capita of 10,000 is sheeet poor. 20,000 is still pretty poorPPP matters highly.
12,000 to 15,000 is fully developed in most cases. East Europe is in the 15k weight class while parts of central and southern are in the 20-25k weight class.
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What is rich? Interwar Spain was not that developed, but IDK. Yugoslavia was probably at a higher economic level than interwar Spain, albeit with big regional variation. US standard of living was surely among the highest in the world in 1860.
Above $10k per capita
You must be from a country with a GDP per capita at 11k and currently looking down on a country with another poor country embroiled in a civil war.
GDP per capita of 10,000 is sheeet poor. 20,000 is still pretty poorPPP matters highly.
12,000 to 15,000 is fully developed in most cases. East Europe is in the 15k weight class while parts of central and southern are in the 20-25k weight class.Hate to burst your bubble but Eastern Europe and the Balkans are not developed. Would you call Malaysia or Mexico developed? Because those countries also have a nominal GDP per capita above $10,000. Malaysia's PPP per capita is above $30,000 and for Mexico, it's above $20,000. It's weird how easily people are willing to categorize third world countries in Europe as developed
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So is the point of this thread that civil war is rare or has never happened among rich countries? Poli Scientists long observed a similar trend for democratic collapse. But in the last decade we've seen rich democracies become authoritarian (e.g., Turkey, Hungary, Poland, Russia more nuanced, and soon possibly Brazil and the US). So unprecedented events do happen.
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What is rich? Interwar Spain was not that developed, but IDK. Yugoslavia was probably at a higher economic level than interwar Spain, albeit with big regional variation. US standard of living was surely among the highest in the world in 1860.
Above $10k per capita
You must be from a country with a GDP per capita at 11k and currently looking down on a country with another poor country embroiled in a civil war.
GDP per capita of 10,000 is sheeet poor. 20,000 is still pretty poor
PPP matters highly.
12,000 to 15,000 is fully developed in most cases. East Europe is in the 15k weight class while parts of central and southern are in the 20-25k weight class.Hate to burst your bubble but Eastern Europe and the Balkans are not developed. Would you call Malaysia or Mexico developed? Because those countries also have a nominal GDP per capita above $10,000. Malaysia's PPP per capita is above $30,000 and for Mexico, it's above $20,000. It's weird how easily people are willing to categorize third world countries in Europe as developed
OECD countries are "developed" - Mexico, Poland, Hungary, Turkey are OECD countries
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no country with GDP per capita >$10k has had a civil war. but of course no country with a GDP per capita at the American level had ever had a civil war before 1860. So with the benefit of hindsight it's easy to set some arbitrary threshold and say there's never been a civil war above it because <<insert fanciful economic reason here that only applies at said threshold>>. In 2121, people will talk about how "no country with a GDP over $200k has ever had a civil war," as if once you get a VR headset civil war is no longer a possibility ... right up until it is.
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no country with GDP per capita >$10k has had a civil war. but of course no country with a GDP per capita at the American level had ever had a civil war before 1860. So with the benefit of hindsight it's easy to set some arbitrary threshold and say there's never been a civil war above it because <<insert fanciful economic reason here that only applies at said threshold>>. In 2121, people will talk about how "no country with a GDP over $200k has ever had a civil war," as if once you get a VR headset civil war is no longer a possibility ... right up until it is.
In other words quant reasoning is junk.