Lib: your rifle won't prevent govt tyranny when the tanks show up at your door

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Valerie

^ Fantastic.
You refuse to clarify what 'the end of monarchy' means, and you refuse to clarify what you mean as a 'major power', b/c doing so will reveal the ludicrously narrow parameters you have to set for your point to stand.
You're just the wo/rst sort of tr/oll.

Your claim is that your little black rifles are going to save you from the government of a modern super-power organized along the lines of a bureaucratic nation-state, and you don't get why it is I'm asking you to build an argument that actually fits those parameters?

P@thetic.

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Berry

Bro, what are you calling 'the end of monarchy'? Since monarchy is still around.
What qualifies as a major power?
Good point. I amend my request: Since then end of feudalism.
If you're too dense to see the fundamental change in the nature of the state after the end of feudalism, then you've got no right to be talking about conflict on this board.
I don't know where you put 'the end of feudalism'. The renaissance? The fall of the Romanovs?

Mo now desperately splitting hairs to obscure the fact that he has not a single example he can name.

Desperate rightie is desperate. Lol.

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Mo

I'll play your game, but your going to give me exact--and I mean exact--terms so that either we'll see how narrow your parameters are, or you won't be able to move your goalposts.

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Berry

I'll play your game, but your going to give me exact--and I mean exact--terms so that either we'll see how narrow your parameters are, or you won't be able to move your goalposts.

Translation: I still can't think of a single example, so I'm going to play out this string as long as I can to avoid answering the question.

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Mo

I'll play your game, but your going to give me exact--and I mean exact--terms so that either we'll see how narrow your parameters are, or you won't be able to move your goalposts.

Translation: I still can't think of a single example, so I'm going to play out this string as long as I can to avoid answering the question.

No, the translation is I've accepted your challenge and I want you to give me your exact parameters of what you're thinking when you say "X has never happened".

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Mo

Literally all you have to do is give me your parameters.

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Berry

Literally all you have to do is give me your parameters.

Translation: I still can't think of a single example, so I'm going to play out this string as long as I can to avoid answering the question.

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Faramir

I actually read through this thread on Berry's side, but it's clear now he's just a troll.

Nothing Mo asked for was out of line and was easily supplied by Berry.

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Valerie

I'll play your game, but your going to give me exact--and I mean exact--terms so that either we'll see how narrow your parameters are, or you won't be able to move your goalposts.

Translation: I still can't think of a single example, so I'm going to play out this string as long as I can to avoid answering the question.

No he has an example. He's just trying to come up with some justification where overthrowing a country where the army is effectively the possession of a single person or family (Russia, France) is equivalent to overthrowing a modern bureaucratic nation-state. Little does he know it is even harder to make his argument when you account for the reality that basically no insurrection against a large kingdom was even successful without the intervention of another major power.

Jesus. It's not like this topic hasn't been studied to death, then resurrected 20 years later, and then studied to death again.

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Berry

I actually read through this thread on Berry's side, but it's clear now he's just a troll.
Nothing Mo asked for was out of line and was easily supplied by Berry.

Lolz. And now Mo is playing the VPN game to avoid answering the question. Nice!

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Valerie

I actually read through this thread on Berry's side, but it's clear now he's just a troll.
Nothing Mo asked for was out of line and was easily supplied by Berry.

I'm not Berry.

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Berry

I'll play your game, but your going to give me exact--and I mean exact--terms so that either we'll see how narrow your parameters are, or you won't be able to move your goalposts.
Translation: I still can't think of a single example, so I'm going to play out this string as long as I can to avoid answering the question.

No he has an example. He's just trying to come up with some justification where overthrowing a country where the army is effectively the possession of a single person or family (Russia, France) is equivalent to overthrowing a modern bureaucratic nation-state. Little does he know it is even harder to make his argument when you account for the reality that basically no insurrection against a large kingdom was even successful without the intervention of another major power.
Jesus. It's not like this topic hasn't been studied to death, then resurrected 20 years later, and then studied to death again.

Yep.

You can just see Mo in his basement right now, feverishly searching Wikipedia for an example that would be applicable to current conditions.

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Mo

I actually read through this thread on Berry's side, but it's clear now he's just a troll.
Nothing Mo asked for was out of line and was easily supplied by Berry.

Lolz. And now Mo is playing the VPN game to avoid answering the question. Nice!

You've just gone full troll now.

I'll admit, you got me. I thought we were going to have a pretty interesting conversation, but you're just a troll. I'm just so tired of trolls like you being on here and just wrecking threads for no reason.

But, you accomplished your goal of wrecking the thread.

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Valerie

I actually read through this thread on Berry's side, but it's clear now he's just a troll.
Nothing Mo asked for was out of line and was easily supplied by Berry.
Lolz. And now Mo is playing the VPN game to avoid answering the question. Nice!

You've just gone full troll now.
I'll admit, you got me. I thought we were going to have a pretty interesting conversation, but you're just a troll. I'm just so tired of trolls like you being on here and just wrecking threads for no reason.
But, you accomplished your goal of wrecking the thread.

Given that you haven't substantively engaged with me, I'll take this statement as your surrender.

Thanks Mo.

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Brianna

Then why is the Taliban bothering to confiscate weapons from private citizens right now?

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Mo

Given that you haven't substantively engaged with me, I'll take this statement as your surrender.
Thanks Mo.

"surrender", i guess we got a snapshot into a troll's brain right there.

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Mo

Then why is the Taliban bothering to confiscate weapons from private citizens right now?

He's a tr/oll, Brianna.

The thread's wrecked.

Just don't feed him.

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Valerie

Then why is the Taliban bothering to confiscate weapons from private citizens right now?

What does this have to do with OP's contention that little black rifles are sufficient to overthrow a super power?

Do you guys really not get how absurd it is that you use rebels overthrowing a disorganized poorly armed rabble of a government as evidence that the same tools would be useful at overthrowing a bureaucratically entrenched superpower?

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Mo

Berry/Valerie is a troll.

Dear G-d, please don't feed it.

Just move on to a different thread.

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Valerie

Then why is the Taliban bothering to confiscate weapons from private citizens right now?

He's a tr/oll, Brianna.
The thread's wrecked.
Just don't feed him.

lol. Yes, you got wrecked. That much is apparent.

I would really still like to have this conversation though, because this idea that domestic citizens are somehow going to overthrow a country like the U.S. with their peashooters has been studied for like 100 years now and the verdict is "It ain't gonna happen."

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