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Jimi

This proposal has been referenced on PSR numerous times. It is claimed that the proposal describes policies like limiting desk rejections to white men, intervening to intentionally increase the gender and racial diversity of authors, and redirecting the substantive focus of the journal toward gender and race.

Graduate students and assistant professors should know the rules of the game they're playing. I'm sure the editorial team is not ashamed of the policies they're using to edit the journal. Given this, someone should post the proposal to an anonymous site.

Currently it seems like the only people who know about APSR's procedures are tenured professors one or two degrees removed from APSA leadership. These are the only people who aren't affected by these policies. Transparency is fairer.

Post the proposal so we know the rules.

1 year ago # QUOTE 37 YEA 0 NAY !
Philo

People thought the Good Ole Boys system was bad. We're now seeing the Good Ole Gals system, and it's far more discriminatory than the pre-1980s environment.

1 year ago # QUOTE 29 YEA 3 NAY !
Florinda

Also the alternative proposal that was rejected.

1 year ago # QUOTE 1 YEA 0 NAY !
Jimi

Also the alternative proposal that was rejected.

Gerring posted it: https://liberalarts.utexas.edu/government/faculty/jg29775#apsr-proposal

Note that Gerring is an expert in qualitative methods and the rest of the team is diverse in race and gender. It's not like this was a proposal from a bunch of white polmeth bros studying turnout.

1 year ago # QUOTE 37 YEA 1 NAY !
Ros

Just looked at the Gerring proposal. Wow. Racially and methodologically diverse with innovative ways of actually addressing inequalities in our discipline. I hope this fiasco inspires people to participate in the governance of their professional associations.

1 year ago # QUOTE 22 YEA 2 NAY !
Adelle

Just looked at the Gerring proposal. Wow. Racially and methodologically diverse with innovative ways of actually addressing inequalities in our discipline. I hope this fiasco inspires people to participate in the governance of their professional associations.

It's hard to do because they've captured the leadership and it's very difficult to even get on the ballot if not nominated by the current group.

1 year ago # QUOTE 12 YEA 0 NAY !
Rambo

There is no universe in which the current team is more qualified than Gerring’s team. For starters people on Gerring’s team have actually published in the journal they seek to edit…

1 year ago # QUOTE 32 YEA 1 NAY !
Bastien

It inspired me to quit the professional association. Eff APSA.

Just looked at the Gerring proposal. Wow. Racially and methodologically diverse with innovative ways of actually addressing inequalities in our discipline. I hope this fiasco inspires people to participate in the governance of their professional associations.

1 year ago # QUOTE 5 YEA 1 NAY !
Marlyn

It inspired me to quit the professional association. Eff APSA.
Just looked at the Gerring proposal. Wow. Racially and methodologically diverse with innovative ways of actually addressing inequalities in our discipline. I hope this fiasco inspires people to participate in the governance of their professional associations.

Quitting the APSA is the only reasonable solution here. There are other professional associations that are only moderately woke and still prioritize scholarly rigor over diversity and inclusion. But it would take a substantial number of people to leave the APSA to have any impact. Large scale collective action is the only possible solution.

1 year ago # QUOTE 10 YEA 0 NAY !
Nevil

Driven by hunger, a fox tried to reach some grapes hanging high on the vine but was unable to, although he leaped with all his strength. As he went away, the fox remarked 'Oh, you aren't even ripe yet! I don't need any sour grapes.'

1 year ago # QUOTE 3 YEA 20 NAY !
Agatha

This proposal has been referenced on PSR numerous times. It is claimed that the proposal describes policies like limiting desk rejections to white men, intervening to intentionally increase the gender and racial diversity of authors, and redirecting the substantive focus of the journal toward gender and race.
Graduate students and assistant professors should know the rules of the game they're playing. I'm sure the editorial team is not ashamed of the policies they're using to edit the journal. Given this, someone should post the proposal to an anonymous site.
Currently it seems like the only people who know about APSR's procedures are tenured professors one or two degrees removed from APSA leadership. These are the only people who aren't affected by these policies. Transparency is fairer.
Post the proposal so we know the rules.

Not publicly available, so this would require someone on the APSA steering committee, or the team itself to post (or maybe someone who read and assisted the team). That's a real small circle, and so I wouldn't bet on anyone of those folks leaking it.

1 year ago # QUOTE 8 YEA 0 NAY !
Agatha

This proposal has been referenced on PSR numerous times. It is claimed that the proposal describes policies like limiting desk rejections to white men, intervening to intentionally increase the gender and racial diversity of authors, and redirecting the substantive focus of the journal toward gender and race.
Graduate students and assistant professors should know the rules of the game they're playing. I'm sure the editorial team is not ashamed of the policies they're using to edit the journal. Given this, someone should post the proposal to an anonymous site.
Currently it seems like the only people who know about APSR's procedures are tenured professors one or two degrees removed from APSA leadership. These are the only people who aren't affected by these policies. Transparency is fairer.
Post the proposal so we know the rules.

Not publicly available, so this would require someone on the APSA steering committee, or the team itself to post (or maybe someone who read and assisted the team). That's a real small circle, and so I wouldn't bet on anyone of those folks leaking it.

1 year ago # QUOTE 2 YEA 0 NAY !
Agatha

This proposal has been referenced on PSR numerous times. It is claimed that the proposal describes policies like limiting desk rejections to white men, intervening to intentionally increase the gender and racial diversity of authors, and redirecting the substantive focus of the journal toward gender and race.
Graduate students and assistant professors should know the rules of the game they're playing. I'm sure the editorial team is not ashamed of the policies they're using to edit the journal. Given this, someone should post the proposal to an anonymous site.
Currently it seems like the only people who know about APSR's procedures are tenured professors one or two degrees removed from APSA leadership. These are the only people who aren't affected by these policies. Transparency is fairer.
Post the proposal so we know the rules.

Not publicly available, so this would require someone on the APSA steering committee, or the team itself to post (or maybe someone who read and assisted the team). That's a real small circle, and so I wouldn't bet on anyone of those folks leaking it.

1 year ago # QUOTE 0 YEA 0 NAY !
Libby

I don't like results-free review though, and here is a good take: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0010414016669369

Also the alternative proposal that was rejected.

Gerring posted it: https://liberalarts.utexas.edu/government/faculty/jg29775#apsr-proposal
Note that Gerring is an expert in qualitative methods and the rest of the team is diverse in race and gender. It's not like this was a proposal from a bunch of white polmeth bros studying turnout.

1 year ago # QUOTE 2 YEA 0 NAY !
Selby

What is the rationale for not publishing these proposals? If anything, membership should vote on them.

1 year ago # QUOTE 5 YEA 0 NAY !
Moriarty

I think I understand the logic behind the current editorial team's behavior - revenge.

For decades, these third-wave feminists had to live under the gradual evolution from being discriminated against as women in the discipline to that becoming a...mild annoyance. Yet, they still remember those bad times. Now, equality and fairness are not enough. They want to make you feel the way they felt in the 70s and 80s. Something like the Gerring team wouldn't accomplish that. Fairness just doesn't feel right. Ya'll need to suffer.

There are plenty of administrators at my university (and yours too, I bet) who act just the same way. After all, isn't feminism about equality? Why can't women be corrupt and capricious, too?

1 year ago # QUOTE 29 YEA 2 NAY !
Melitta

Thelen knew exactly what she was doing as APSA ores when she constituted the APSR search committee a d steered it toward this team. Exactly.

1 year ago # QUOTE 6 YEA 0 NAY !
Briscoe

Get real. There are lots of good reasons to be disappointed, but this is over the top.

I think I understand the logic behind the current editorial team's behavior - revenge.
For decades, these third-wave feminists had to live under the gradual evolution from being discriminated against as women in the discipline to that becoming a...mild annoyance. Yet, they still remember those bad times. Now, equality and fairness are not enough. They want to make you feel the way they felt in the 70s and 80s. Something like the Gerring team wouldn't accomplish that. Fairness just doesn't feel right. Ya'll need to suffer.
There are plenty of administrators at my university (and yours too, I bet) who act just the same way. After all, isn't feminism about equality? Why can't women be corrupt and capricious, too?

1 year ago # QUOTE 5 YEA 4 NAY !
Duana

People thought the Good Ole Boys system was bad. We're now seeing the Bad Young Gals system, and it's far more discriminatory than the pre-1980s environment.

ftfy

1 year ago # QUOTE 2 YEA 2 NAY !
Roseanne

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1 year ago # QUOTE 24 YEA 1 NAY !

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