Harvard has made a lot of spousal accommodations recently for bad hires like PR, MM, and SC, who shouldn't have been hired themselves.
Matty and the Papaya!
Record for # or spousal hires?
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Harvard has made a lot of spousal accommodations recently for bad hires like PR, MM, and SC, who shouldn't have been hired themselves.
Matty and the Papaya!
They'll move soon due MB's imminent tenure denial -- not clear where after Berkeley barely made an offer to MS for diversity reasons, and voted to not extend an offer to MB.
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Harvard has made a lot of spousal accommodations recently for bad hires like PR, MM, and SC, who shouldn't have been hired themselves.
Matty and the Papaya!They'll move soon due MB's imminent tenure denial -- not clear where after Berkeley barely made an offer to MS for diversity reasons, and voted to not extend an offer to MB.
Berkeley made no offers.
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Harvard has made a lot of spousal accommodations recently for bad hires like PR, MM, and SC, who shouldn't have been hired themselves.
Matty and the Papaya!
They'll move soon due MB's imminent tenure denial -- not clear where after Berkeley barely made an offer to MS for diversity reasons, and voted to not extend an offer to MB.Berkeley made no offers.
So Papaya didn't get an offer either?
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honestly, a continuing appointment at a place like princeton if my spouse is tenured there sounds great. Low pressure, you have the prestige, you can pretty much work and teach whatever you want until you retire and make good money for it.
I like some of CW's work, but I was surprised to see how little it's been cited (relatively speaking). I assumed she would be in the 1000s Google cites. Still, UT, tOSU, GW, UNC, Princeton... those are some plum jobs over the years.
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Spousal accommodations are rarely are directly TT for juniors. Typically they happen via the VAP route first. CM was less advanced with his dissertation work when PR started. Also, offer has more to do with CD (CM's advisor and KI's spouse) sitting on CM's committee than with them going on the market.
All of these accommodations were not TT. CM got a TT offer only this year after both him and PR went on the market.
Harvard has made a lot of spousal accommodations recently for bad hires like PR, MM, and SC, who shouldn't have been hired themselves. -
I saw CM on twitter and had no idea who she was. No reason a place like Princeton should ever have to do spousal hires at all. There are plenty of schools within an hours drive. People should not complain about diversity hires when spouse hires are even less meritocratic and 1950ish in tone. At least diversity hires have some contribution to the university in terms of service and student demand which are not unimportant. Spousal hires serve no purpose and are not done in any other industry. I am sure Google wants to attract engineers - do they have plans to offer jobs for the wife too in order to get top talent?
Perhaps if universities go online more in the future and you have more geographic flexibility, this bizarre practice can come to an end.
Plenty of people want to be lecturers or researchers at Princeton. You shouldn't get the job just because of who you are married to when there are literally 100s of people who also want the job - many of whom who might contribute more to the university in terms of diversity or be simply better scholars.
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honestly, a continuing appointment at a place like princeton if my spouse is tenured there sounds great. Low pressure, you have the prestige, you can pretty much work and teach whatever you want until you retire and make good money for it
Depends on your psychological makeup. Most people are primarily influenced by their daily environment and in this case you are not necessarily going to have prestige or respect in your daily life. People may like you as a person and you may develop a niche through teaching/service but you’ll have to be comfortable giving up status as an important researcher. You also won’t be making good money. But your spouse will.
In the grand scheme of things life could be a lot worse, but it’s not an easy trade off for some people.
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Yeah it sounds like crap to me. Everyone knows you’re dependent on your spouse. You have prestige only with people at your kids school who don’t know any better. The money is not that great for these jobs.
I’d guess, and it seems, women are more comfortable in these jobs. As a man I would never take one.
honestly, a continuing appointment at a place like princeton if my spouse is tenured there sounds great. Low pressure, you have the prestige, you can pretty much work and teach whatever you want until you retire and make good money for it
Depends on your psychological makeup. Most people are primarily influenced by their daily environment and in this case you are not necessarily going to have prestige or respect in your daily life. People may like you as a person and you may develop a niche through teaching/service but you’ll have to be comfortable giving up status as an important researcher. You also won’t be making good money. But your spouse will.
In the grand scheme of things life could be a lot worse, but it’s not an easy trade off for some people.honestly, a continuing appointment at a place like princeton if my spouse is tenured there sounds great. Low pressure, you have the prestige, you can pretty much work and teach whatever you want until you retire and make good money for it
Depends on your psychological makeup. Most people are primarily influenced by their daily environment and in this case you are not necessarily going to have prestige or respect in your daily life. People may like you as a person and you may develop a niche through teaching/service but you’ll have to be comfortable giving up status as an important researcher. You also won’t be making good money. But your spouse will.
In the grand scheme of things life could be a lot worse, but it’s not an easy trade off for some people. -
Kind of weird that Duke didn’t give CM a non-TT job but Princeton did.
Why is that weird? Princeton has more resources/budgetary flexibility, seems pretty straightforward. They also may have wanted IW more, for various reasons, but I have no knowledge of that.
Because most people would expect Princeton to have higher standards than Duke.
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Let's just say no one at GWU is sorry to see CM go
This honestly doesn't surprise me. She's insufferable. She thinks it's because she speaks truth to power or fights against injustice or something, but it's really because she's rude and difficult. The Princeton search made it clear how widely disliked she is, even by people who share her politics and beliefs about gender inequality. She also gave an unbelievable bad talk at Princeton, which feels like a sign of arrogance, and I heard she blew talks at Duke and UNC as well.