UIC is a known disaster of a department. Has been for years. Why would any junior want to go to that snakepit and get denied tenure. The department has no direction and is years behind the rest of the discipline. Low salary in a high COLA area.
Watch out for the cabal!
UIC is a known disaster of a department. Has been for years. Why would any junior want to go to that snakepit and get denied tenure. The department has no direction and is years behind the rest of the discipline. Low salary in a high COLA area.
Watch out for the cabal!
It'd be a very stressful job but still pay your bills!
You are probably a sheltered grad student. In this day and age, in this market, it's difficult to justify ruling out job opportunities because there is dysfunction within a dept. Ivy league grads aren't going to seriously consider a place like UIC bc they have better options. Anyone else would be foolish not to take a job in hand, regardless of reputation. It's easier to make a lateral move later if you're unhappy than it is to get interest as a non-elite school candidate who has struck out on the market numerous years in a row. And if you fail on the market, at least you have a job. This is the real cut throat world of academia.
UIC is a known disaster of a department. Has been for years. Why would any junior want to go to that snakepit and get denied tenure. The department has no direction and is years behind the rest of the discipline. Low salary in a high COLA area.
Watch out for the cabal!
You are probably a sheltered grad student. In this day and age, in this market, it's difficult to justify ruling out job opportunities because there is dysfunction within a dept. Ivy league grads aren't going to seriously consider a place like UIC bc they have better options. Anyone else would be foolish not to take a job in hand, regardless of reputation. It's easier to make a lateral move later if you're unhappy than it is to get interest as a non-elite school candidate who has struck out on the market numerous years in a row. And if you fail on the market, at least you have a job. This is the real cut throat world of academia.
UIC is a known disaster of a department. Has been for years. Why would any junior want to go to that snakepit and get denied tenure. The department has no direction and is years behind the rest of the discipline. Low salary in a high COLA area.
Watch out for the cabal!
do ivy league grads include Brown, Penn, Cornell too?
You are probably a sheltered grad student. In this day and age, in this market, it's difficult to justify ruling out job opportunities because there is dysfunction within a dept. Ivy league grads aren't going to seriously consider a place like UIC bc they have better options. Anyone else would be foolish not to take a job in hand, regardless of reputation. It's easier to make a lateral move later if you're unhappy than it is to get interest as a non-elite school candidate who has struck out on the market numerous years in a row. And if you fail on the market, at least you have a job. This is the real cut throat world of academia.
UIC is a known disaster of a department. Has been for years. Why would any junior want to go to that snakepit and get denied tenure. The department has no direction and is years behind the rest of the discipline. Low salary in a high COLA area.
Watch out for the cabal!
Exactly, that’s why your new APs like Mike Murakawa leaves after one year.
You are probably a sheltered grad student. In this day and age, in this market, it's difficult to justify ruling out job opportunities because there is dysfunction within a dept. Ivy league grads aren't going to seriously consider a place like UIC bc they have better options. Anyone else would be foolish not to take a job in hand, regardless of reputation. It's easier to make a lateral move later if you're unhappy than it is to get interest as a non-elite school candidate who has struck out on the market numerous years in a row. And if you fail on the market, at least you have a job. This is the real cut throat world of academia.
UIC is a known disaster of a department. Has been for years. Why would any junior want to go to that snakepit and get denied tenure. The department has no direction and is years behind the rest of the discipline. Low salary in a high COLA area.
Watch out for the cabal!Exactly, that’s why your new APs like Mike Murakawa leaves after one year.
He went to Google to get paid. That point exists independent of Uic dysfunction.i dont care how collegial people are, money talks. At least be honest when you air the dirty laundry.
You are probably a sheltered grad student. In this day and age, in this market, it's difficult to justify ruling out job opportunities because there is dysfunction within a dept. Ivy league grads aren't going to seriously consider a place like UIC bc they have better options. Anyone else would be foolish not to take a job in hand, regardless of reputation. It's easier to make a lateral move later if you're unhappy than it is to get interest as a non-elite school candidate who has struck out on the market numerous years in a row. And if you fail on the market, at least you have a job. This is the real cut throat world of academia.
UIC is a known disaster of a department. Has been for years. Why would any junior want to go to that snakepit and get denied tenure. The department has no direction and is years behind the rest of the discipline. Low salary in a high COLA area.
Watch out for the cabal!
Exactly, that’s why your new APs like Mike Murakawa leaves after one year.He went to Google to get paid. That point exists independent of Uic dysfunction.i dont care how collegial people are, money talks. At least be honest when you air the dirty laundry.
When one new faculty leaves for a twelve month job for more money you can argue "money talks"
But when two new people leaves around the same time you should think deeper
The cabal politics and tenure denial(s) scared away both Mike and Nicole from their nine month working and three month break per year
Of course I agree with you people should apply for any UIC job that should be better than no job at all
Um there was more to the story to why MM left...
Yep. Lots of us have the opportunity to leave and get paid. But we stay because the academic life in a functional department is worth more than money. UIC can’t keep good people, mike and Nicole. And it actively tries to get rid of the few good ones they have like Choi and BV.
Um there was more to the story to why MM left...
Yep. Lots of us have the opportunity to leave and get paid. But we stay because the academic life in a functional department is worth more than money. UIC can’t keep good people, mike and Nicole. And it actively tries to get rid of the few good ones they have like Choi and BV.
BS. Valeriano and Choi are/were the worst offenders in terms of dysfunction. Choi gave out negative grades (literally less than "zero") for papers, which is why he was stripped of the stats course. BV told grad students during his interview that you should make sure to have sex with undergrads as a grad student bc it's harder to get away with it as faculty. The idiot buddies and acolytes of BV and Choi should be careful not to throw rocks in glass houses. The truth stings.
God, why don't you guys hash this out in person, face-to-face, rather than airing your baggage on PSR?
Um there was more to the story to why MM left...
Yep. Lots of us have the opportunity to leave and get paid. But we stay because the academic life in a functional department is worth more than money. UIC can’t keep good people, mike and Nicole. And it actively tries to get rid of the few good ones they have like Choi and BV.BS. Valeriano and Choi are/were the worst offenders in terms of dysfunction. Choi gave out negative grades (literally less than "zero") for papers, which is why he was stripped of the stats course. BV told grad students during his interview that you should make sure to have sex with undergrads as a grad student bc it's harder to get away with it as faculty. The idiot buddies and acolytes of BV and Choi should be careful not to throw rocks in glass houses. The truth stings.
God, why don't you guys hash this out in person, face-to-face, rather than airing your baggage on PSR?
Choi and BV have been fighting this bitter battle for years on PSR, reopening old wounds over and over. Many have tried to ignore them and their BS, but at a certain point enough is enough. I agree with you, btw. It's not a discussion for PSR.
Um there was more to the story to why MM left...
Yep. Lots of us have the opportunity to leave and get paid. But we stay because the academic life in a functional department is worth more than money. UIC can’t keep good people, mike and Nicole. And it actively tries to get rid of the few good ones they have like Choi and BV.BS. Valeriano and Choi are/were the worst offenders in terms of dysfunction. Choi gave out negative grades (literally less than "zero") for papers, which is why he was stripped of the stats course. BV told grad students during his interview that you should make sure to have sex with undergrads as a grad student bc it's harder to get away with it as faculty. The idiot buddies and acolytes of BV and Choi should be careful not to throw rocks in glass houses. The truth stings.
Read the stuff they said about Choi. I agree: he's an asshole. But I'm pretty sure he's not an asshole because he's a Korean... and that's exactly what the department said about him on several occasions. They needed him to teach the stats course; he didn't want to, and so sabotaged things; and they said let's go racial. Is that a department you want to be in.
BV's BV. The accusation you level at him could be true - he's like that. But it's probably false, like most of the stuff people say about him. As with Choi, there's plenty there not to like personally, but the department bollixed it up by playing it like a bunch of amateurs.
It all comes down to this: you're stupid to deny someone tenure or promotion just because you don't like them in a personal level. And if that someone is publishing at a clip far beyond their peers, and you deny them tenure/promotion because you think they're an asshole, be prepared to suck as a department, and reap the whirlwind in the estimation of your department.
Um there was more to the story to why MM left...
Yep. Lots of us have the opportunity to leave and get paid. But we stay because the academic life in a functional department is worth more than money. UIC can’t keep good people, mike and Nicole. And it actively tries to get rid of the few good ones they have like Choi and BV.BS. Valeriano and Choi are/were the worst offenders in terms of dysfunction. Choi gave out negative grades (literally less than "zero") for papers, which is why he was stripped of the stats course. BV told grad students during his interview that you should make sure to have sex with undergrads as a grad student bc it's harder to get away with it as faculty. The idiot buddies and acolytes of BV and Choi should be careful not to throw rocks in glass houses. The truth stings.
And you hired him anyway!!!