What is the equivalent of a UK IR PhD (from Oxbridge/LSE/UCL) on the US market? I get that they are less popular in the US. Are they treated as equal to top-10/20/50 in the US?
Top UK school equivalent in the US
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Essex = or < FSU seems like a pretty reasonable equivalent.
I know at at least 1 current Essex faculty who tried to get a lateral position at FSU several years running (within the last 5 years of so) and couldn't pull it off. I'm sure they're happy at Essex, but FSU should have taken them IMO.
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Correct take from the perspective of colleges and universities.
But there are still Euro people who decide to do their PhD at the LSE/Oxford with the hope that this got them a good job when they're back on the continent. And some of them do that indeed, like CW who started a job at Vienna with a PhD from the LSE. On the other hand, the opposite never happened. I've never seen a British person doing a PhD in Europe with the hope of coming back to the UK afterwards.
The Euros (i.e. Sciences Po) and the UK (i.e. UCL) don't think of each other as part of their system, even if they're technically on the same continent. That was true even before Brexit.
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Correct take from the perspective of colleges and universities.
But there are still Euro people who decide to do their PhD at the LSE/Oxford with the hope that this got them a good job when they're back on the continent. And some of them do that indeed, like CW who started a job at Vienna with a PhD from the LSE. On the other hand, the opposite never happened. I've never seen a British person doing a PhD in Europe with the hope of coming back to the UK afterwards.
The Euros (i.e. Sciences Po) and the UK (i.e. UCL) don't think of each other as part of their system, even if they're technically on the same continent. That was true even before Brexit.That's because Brits are more parochial than Euros, not because many have tried and failed to come back to the UK. In fairness, they are more parochial because, in most cases, the UK university system is a bit more open and less dependent on nepotism than the German, French, or Italian systems.
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Essex bros downvoting LOL
Literally no one cares or has heard of Essex in the United States. "London School" of anything will score you more points because it sounds classy. Oxbridge is prob fine but you can't skate by just on name, you have to actually be a decent scholar.
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Depends on whether we are talking research quality or brand recognition with parents. And on both criteria universities usually have a local/regional bonus because people have been confronted with brands on their own continent more often and the research traditions and topics differ to some extent. E.g., you don't find as much European/British/German etc. Politics, public policy, conflict research in the US and not as much American politics, REP etc. in Europe, so recognition is not globally uniform.
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Not exactly true. Quite Brits go to the US for their PhDs and then come back with the hope of getting a good job.
It’s all a matter of hierarchy. If you take say, the top 10 or 20 universities in each region, Top US unis > Top UK unis > Top EU unis.
That’s why you find Euro going to both UK and US for their PhD, Brits going to US, and Yanks going nowhere.
Correct take from the perspective of colleges and universities.
But there are still Euro people who decide to do their PhD at the LSE/Oxford with the hope that this got them a good job when they're back on the continent. And some of them do that indeed, like CW who started a job at Vienna with a PhD from the LSE. On the other hand, the opposite never happened. I've never seen a British person doing a PhD in Europe with the hope of coming back to the UK afterwards.
The Euros (i.e. Sciences Po) and the UK (i.e. UCL) don't think of each other as part of their system, even if they're technically on the same continent. That was true even before Brexit.That's because Brits are more parochial than Euros, not because many have tried and failed to come back to the UK. In fairness, they are more parochial because, in most cases, the UK university system is a bit more open and less dependent on nepotism than the German, French, or Italian systems.
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I helped teach a class at the Essex Summer School. Their facilities and quant experts didn't compare favorably with, for instance, the Texas schools I am familiar with (A&M, UNT, Houston, etc.). Yet in terms of political science, they are at or near the top in the UK (to be fair, they do have a couple of really good people).
Positive: Absolutely loved the elevator that goes in a constant loop in the library. That alone makes it worth a visit:
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I helped teach a class at the Essex Summer School. Their facilities and quant experts didn't compare favorably with, for instance, the Texas schools I am familiar with (A&M, UNT, Houston, etc.). Yet in terms of political science, they are at or near the top in the UK (to be fair, they do have a couple of really good people).
Positive: Absolutely loved the elevator that goes in a constant loop in the library. That alone makes it worth a visit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY55knbLNQUSummer school instructors != local faculty