What?! Why?
I heard the student got kicked out of Stanford
Why did Simon Jackman give up his tenured position at Stanford?
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As a UCSD PhD student, I did this for several faculty (usually guest speakers from other institutions) and job market candidates.
My claim to fame is that as a graduate student I, not once, but twice, volunteered to pick SJ up from the airport after a trip, and then forgot to do it.
What kind of department has their grad students doing airport pick-up service for faculty? I mean, I get you're more likely to get a very good job as a Stanford grad, but do you pay for it in being a valet. (and don't give me "volunteered")
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As a UCSD PhD student, I did this for several faculty (usually guest speakers from other institutions) and job market candidates.
My claim to fame is that as a graduate student I, not once, but twice, volunteered to pick SJ up from the airport after a trip, and then forgot to do it.
What kind of department has their grad students doing airport pick-up service for faculty? I mean, I get you're more likely to get a very good job as a Stanford grad, but do you pay for it in being a valet. (and don't give me "volunteered")Good for you, but first, guest speakers are not faculty from your own department. I gather this was at least spun as an opportunity for access and networking or something (when in reality, it's blatant cheapness on the part of the department and an inappropriate use of grad students for free labor).
But...you didn't say that you picked up your own faculty members at the airport. Because using your subordinates at a job to do rather menial tasks for free for you is highly inappropriate. Especially if you sell it as a way to get professional access to faculty -- the job of faculty is to supervise grad students. Having strings attached, even if those strings are picking up their dry cleaning and not sexual still isn't right.
Then again, we have a department that swept up what seems to be some drug-fueled affair with an undergrad(s?) under the rug, so the bar is clearly not high here.
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I also picked up faculty from the airport during my time in grad school and they picked me up from the airport when I returned from conferences as well. It was because we were collegial and helped each other out. I don't see the issue.
As a UCSD PhD student, I did this for several faculty (usually guest speakers from other institutions) and job market candidates.
My claim to fame is that as a graduate student I, not once, but twice, volunteered to pick SJ up from the airport after a trip, and then forgot to do it.
What kind of department has their grad students doing airport pick-up service for faculty? I mean, I get you're more likely to get a very good job as a Stanford grad, but do you pay for it in being a valet. (and don't give me "volunteered")
Good for you, but first, guest speakers are not faculty from your own department. I gather this was at least spun as an opportunity for access and networking or something (when in reality, it's blatant cheapness on the part of the department and an inappropriate use of grad students for free labor).
But...you didn't say that you picked up your own faculty members at the airport. Because using your subordinates at a job to do rather menial tasks for free for you is highly inappropriate. Especially if you sell it as a way to get professional access to faculty -- the job of faculty is to supervise grad students. Having strings attached, even if those strings are picking up their dry cleaning and not sexual still isn't right.
Then again, we have a department that swept up what seems to be some drug-fueled affair with an undergrad(s?) under the rug, so the bar is clearly not high here. -
For all the ugly things people on this site like to post about metoo, women, etc, it is heartening to see that most people in this thread take what Jackman did quite seriously.
I heard that the student was planning to sue the university over what happened. Again, I don't know the details, but that does imply there was more going on there than just some consensual sex.
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As a UCSD PhD student, I did this for several faculty (usually guest speakers from other institutions) and job market candidates.
My claim to fame is that as a graduate student I, not once, but twice, volunteered to pick SJ up from the airport after a trip, and then forgot to do it.
What kind of department has their grad students doing airport pick-up service for faculty? I mean, I get you're more likely to get a very good job as a Stanford grad, but do you pay for it in being a valet. (and don't give me "volunteered")Picking up guest speakers, job candidates, or prospective students is normal. Picking up your own faculty members is a little weird.
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The student. If I, the mod in question, was protecting SJ then this whole thread would be gone.
But you deleted many threads that did not reference the student in question. Nor was the student even named in any of the posts you deleted.
Seems like this is the classic sort of case where PSR can occasionally do some good, if you hadn't deleted half of the thread: You've got a senior professor who allegedly abused his power and got off with a slap on the wrist.
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I recall that some time around 2016, my department (and, I presume, several others) had gotten word that Jackman was interested in leaving Stanford for anywhere else, and would we be interested in hiring him?
Ultimately, my department just didn't have the line for it, nor were we going to convince our dean to create a new line for him. We were, however, pretty unclear on why he seemed so eager to leave Stanford (And my university is in the US, even further away from Australia than Stanford is). The rumors about the harassment issue didn't come out until later. But I'm pretty thankful that we seemed to have dodged a bullet by not going after him.
Did SJ give any reason for his wanting to leave Stanford, even if it was to head to another US university? Presumably the reason wasn't to be closer to his Australia family.
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Lolwut
I also picked up faculty from the airport during my time in grad school and they picked me up from the airport when I returned from conferences as well. It was because we were collegial and helped each other out. I don't see the issue.
As a UCSD PhD student, I did this for several faculty (usually guest speakers from other institutions) and job market candidates.
My claim to fame is that as a graduate student I, not once, but twice, volunteered to pick SJ up from the airport after a trip, and then forgot to do it.
What kind of department has their grad students doing airport pick-up service for faculty? I mean, I get you're more likely to get a very good job as a Stanford grad, but do you pay for it in being a valet. (and don't give me "volunteered")
Good for you, but first, guest speakers are not faculty from your own department. I gather this was at least spun as an opportunity for access and networking or something (when in reality, it's blatant cheapness on the part of the department and an inappropriate use of grad students for free labor).
But...you didn't say that you picked up your own faculty members at the airport. Because using your subordinates at a job to do rather menial tasks for free for you is highly inappropriate. Especially if you sell it as a way to get professional access to faculty -- the job of faculty is to supervise grad students. Having strings attached, even if those strings are picking up their dry cleaning and not sexual still isn't right.
Then again, we have a department that swept up what seems to be some drug-fueled affair with an undergrad(s?) under the rug, so the bar is clearly not high here. -
Leo, this conversation is important. I agree. The deletions you are referring to mostly quoted each other, which caused some non-problematic posts to be included in the removal. I define problematic as giving any information that could be used to doxx the student. I will be overzealous in this regard. This thread is viscerally clear that a senior faculty has done wrong.
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For all the ugly things people on this site like to post about metoo, women, etc, it is heartening to see that most people in this thread take what Jackman did quite seriously.
I heard that the student was planning to sue the university over what happened. Again, I don't know the details, but that does imply there was more going on there than just some consensual sex.They're not taking it seriously because they're concerned about morality or about the student. They're taking it seriously because seeing SJ fall makes them feel good.
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What I find abhorrent about these cases (SJ, JD, BJ) is the absolute unwillingness of the senior faculty to speak out on behalf of student concerns. There are plenty of folks at Stanford who could have brought attention to this without any concern about the impact it would have on their career. Yet absolute silence, publicly. The notion that you have a predator in your department and your #1 priority isn't protecting yours or someone else's students is shameful. There should be some moral responsibility that goes along with rank but it appears that isn't the case in our discipline.