Yang has done a terrible job of selling a great policy

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Roderick

He can't seem to articulate a good answer to the repeated question, "How are you gonna pay for it?"

1) It would generate significant economic activity by putting money into the hands of people who spend it at the highest rates, thus generating tax revenue
2) It would means test people off welfare programs, saving a significant chunk
3) The top-end can easily afford to pay a higher tax rate since they've enjoyed almost all of the economic gains for decades
4) Maybe it won't be 100% deficit neutral, but I don't recall slack-jawed yokels standing around asking how we gonna pay for $700+ bln per year on military programs that get moth balled without ever seeing combat, or $3 trillion on a useless war in Iraq, or trillions in tax cuts for companies like Amazon who push working Americans to the brink.

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Kim

OP is correct. Yang is inarticulate and cannot explain the policy he has built his entire campaign around. He is a terrible candidate and would be an awful President.

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Roderick

OP is correct. Yang is inarticulate and cannot explain the policy he has built his entire campaign around. He is a terrible candidate and would be an awful President.

Nah, Trump sorta proves that nothing matters. Yang will make a fine president, much better than Trump anyway.

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Eomer

He's like an Asian Trump. Good argument.

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Roderick

He's like an Asian Trump. Good argument.

^West Virginia posting here, can't read apparently

"Yang will make a fine president, much better than Trump anyway."

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Kim

His policy is "I will give you free money" but he can't even sell that. What a dud. Time to drop out.

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Roderick

His policy is "I will give you free money" but he can't even sell that. What a dud. Time to drop out.

It's not free money. It's past due payment for services rendered.

And this is where he's failed. Most of the arguments he makes are too sophisticated for your average voter. He should simplify it. Start asking "How can we afford *not* to do this?"

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Azura

Yang isn't afraid to make a fool of himself...which he has done in every debate so far.

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Roderick

Yang isn't afraid to make a fool of himself...which he has done in every debate so far.

Conservatives aren't afraid of looking stupid, because they look stupid no matter what. Yang really needs to dumb it down for y'all.

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Azura

You are losing this argument, Roderick. Democrats need to defeat Trump. Yang's not the guy. He can't articulate his ideas: there are better candidates. He sabotaged himself in the most recent debate with this giveaway gimmick. He may be a nice guy and maybe this policy has merit but he is in way over his head. Time to pack it in.

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Roderick

You are losing this argument, Roderick. Democrats need to defeat Trump. Yang's not the guy. He can't articulate his ideas: there are better candidates. He sabotaged himself in the most recent debate with this giveaway gimmick. He may be a nice guy and maybe this policy has merit but he is in way over his head. Time to pack it in.

What argument? I said he failed in the very first post.

LOL

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Susie

3) The top-end can easily afford to pay a higher tax rate since they've enjoyed almost all of the economic gains for decades

So the answer is higher taxes. That’s the reason he can’t sell it. Higher taxes is a non-starter.

“Yes,” you say, “but these are just higher taxes on the highest earners. Not on everyone. And like I said, they’ve enjoyed almost all of the economic gains.”

Doesn’t matter. You don’t sell your plans by talking about raising taxes. Even on the wealthy.

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Heath

In every Presidential campaign there is at least one candidate who has A Big Plan and it will solve everything. All problems can be addressed by adopting the Big Plan that somehow has not been adopted yet, despite the fact that it solves all problems.

This year it is being advocated by a guy who cannot explain his Big Idea with enough charisma or passion to generate more than a couple percentage points in the polls.

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Kristy

A Big Plan and A Small Yang

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Effie

UBI is a stupid policy, and it's particularly badly targeted at automation. The defining characteristic of the emerging tech platforms is that they have outsized market power. They're oligopolies or monopolies that are difficult to supplant because of their centralized control over data.

You can pay workers whatever you want, but if private actors have the power to price, then they control the real wage.

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Rona

Yang is their best shot because the other candidates have irreparable problems and are damaged goods. I'm dead serious.

You are losing this argument, Roderick. Democrats need to defeat Trump. Yang's not the guy. He can't articulate his ideas: there are better candidates. He sabotaged himself in the most recent debate with this giveaway gimmick. He may be a nice guy and maybe this policy has merit but he is in way over his head. Time to pack it in.

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Rona

This makes no sense at all.

UBI is a stupid policy, and it's particularly badly targeted at automation. The defining characteristic of the emerging tech platforms is that they have outsized market power. They're oligopolies or monopolies that are difficult to supplant because of their centralized control over data.
You can pay workers whatever you want, but if private actors have the power to price, then they control the real wage.

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Rona

Wrong again. Warren adn Sanders also claim to "have a plan". Sanders is out of his mind with his 16T green new deal, free college, guaranteed gov job, 15/hr min wage, free healthcare (including dental and vision), etc. The man is bats**t crazy.

In every Presidential campaign there is at least one candidate who has A Big Plan and it will solve everything. All problems can be addressed by adopting the Big Plan that somehow has not been adopted yet, despite the fact that it solves all problems.
This year it is being advocated by a guy who cannot explain his Big Idea with enough charisma or passion to generate more than a couple percentage points in the polls.

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Effie

This makes no sense at all.

You seem like the kind of person who lost their job to automation... when humanity invented the paperweight.

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Glenna

He can't seem to articulate [...]

he sure as heck can !!!

from a previous thread:

We want so much to have the pork so we can pour it on the Uyghur to break their religions. But sometime it better to buy a Vietnam pork for a more price. When a Chinese have to wait to get a pork it is pretty much a tortures.

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